2nd Border Regiment locations 1890-1905 (forum archive)

Information icon4.svg The following text has been archived here from our sister site, the Border Regiment Forum, which is set to close in January 2018.
A wiki-based copy of that original post has been preserved here for reference purposes. Note: only selected posts from the forum have been archived (find out why).
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by bodger » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:40 pm
User font awesome (edited).png

bodger
Private
Registered user
Posts: 6

I am researching a chap called George Farnall who was born in Birmingham in 1873. I know little about his movements but he enlisted in the Rifle Corps in 1914 at the age of 41. On his attestation form he stated that he had service in the 2nd Btn. Border Regiment T/E. I don't know what the T/E means. I suspect he had some extensive prior service because he was a l/cpl within a month. I also suspect he had won some regimental boxing awards and possibly served in India.

So...question is, what were the locations of 2nd Borders around 1890 - 1905? If this chap was from Birmingham, and then moved to North London, why would he recruit into the 2nd Borders? I thought they recruited in Cumbria.

File alt font awesome.svg Posted by plbramham » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:01 pm
Avatar-plbramham.jpg

plbramham
General
Global moderator
Posts: 1369

Hope this might help, Paul
  • 1881.07.01 2nd Battalion, The Border Regiment
  • 1882 Ireland: Dublin
  • 1887 Guernsey
  • 1888 Malta
  • 1890 India: Multan
  • 1897 Quetta
  • 1899 Bareilly
  • 1902 Burma
  • 1905 South Africa
  • 1907 England: Sheffield
  • 1909 Bordon
  • 1912 Wales: Pembroke Dock
  • 1914.09 France and Flanders 7 Div
  • 1917.11 Italy 20 Bde, 7 Div
  • 1918.11 Italy
  • 1919 Ireland: Castlebar/Claremorris
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by plbramham » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:09 pm
Avatar-plbramham.jpg

plbramham
General
Global moderator
Posts: 1369

End of list got cut off, here it is to complete the 2nd Btn deployment history
  • 1922 England: Aldershot 1 Bde
  • 1924 Malta
  • 1925 Sudan
  • 1927 Tientsin
  • 1929.12 India: Rawalpindi
  • 1930 NW Frontier: Rawalpindi
  • 1931 Landi Kotal
  • 1934 Ferozepore
  • 1938.10 Calcutta
  • 1939 Calcutta
  • 1941.03 Poona
  • 1942.07 Ceylon
  • 1943.11 India/Burma 36 Inf Div
  • 1946 UK
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by bodger » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:23 pm
User font awesome (edited).png

bodger
Private
Registered user
Posts: 6

Cheers Paul, that sort of confirms my suspicions that he might have been in India around 1890's. Multan eh, I was in Multan barracks in Tidworth many, many moons ago.
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by bodger » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:51 am
User font awesome (edited).png

bodger
Private
Registered user
Posts: 6

So can some old sweat please explain the principles of the two battalion scheme after 1881. Specific example: If a new recruit joined the 2nd Battalion in 1894, the Battalion would be in India. So they would not send a recruit to India for basic training, therefore I assume he would be sent to the home Battalion for basic training, which was the 1st Battalion who were in Aldershot. After basic training groups would be sent out to India to join their preferred unit. Is that how it worked?
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by plbramham » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:16 am
Avatar-plbramham.jpg

plbramham
General
Global moderator
Posts: 1369

I'm not certain, but I would have thought that men recruited in Cumbria, Borders and the North West would have gone to the 3rd Btn HQ (Depot) at Carlisle Castle for training, before being alloted to the "active" 1st or 2nd Btn. The Aldershot example is a logical possibility though, as a man could have been recruited "locally", as the regiment did not only take men from Cumbria and the Borders. Likewise a recruit could have joined the regiment, or re-enlisted from another regiment, out in India. (Sometimes the son of a soldier already out there)

I think that a recruit would have enlisted into the regiment, not the battalion - that would have been decided for him, but if he joined up in India I'm sure they would have kept him in the 2nd!