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File alt font awesome.svg Posted by petersloan » 13 Apr 2008, 16:13
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Hi, Alf Sydney, 11th Battalion, was shellshocked on 1/7/16. I'm trying to trace his movements from being hospitalised to returning to the front.

To date I know:

  • 1891: 22nd May Born, living 37 Henry Street, Workington. Father working in brickyard.
  • 1901: Census gives scholar, living 12, Glenfield Place, Barepot.
  • 1904 - 1907 living Lowca Lane, Seaton.
  • 1908: July - October, Working at Pasture Farm, West Newton.
  • 1909 - 1917 living St. Paul's Avenue, Seaton.
  • 1912: May 27th, on holiday, Coniston. June 30th, on holiday, Bassenthwaite.
  • 1913: August 3rd, on holiday, Southport.
  • 1914: Working as a butcher.
    • 3rd August, on holiday, Glenridding.
    • 21st December Enlisted 11th Battalion (Lonsdale), Border Regt.
    • 31st December Postcard from Carlisle, no roll call today.
  • 1915 - 22nd February, two postcards care of Blackhall Farm
    • May Moved to Prees Heath Camp, Shropshire.
    • May Postcard for Birthday Greetings sent to Prees Heath.
    • June Moved to Wensley Camp, Yorkshire.
    • August D Company Training at Strensall School of Musketry.
    • August Moved to Codford St. Mary, Wiltshire.
    • 23rd November Arrived in France.
    • December, Battalion in billets at Aveluy.
  • 1916 - April Battalion in quarantine for measles at Contay Wood.
    • 1st June Battalion at Bouzincourt.
    • 12th June Field Post Office 97.
    • 1st July, Alf wounded.
    • 5th/6th July family notified?
    • 7th July postcard to Alf in County of London War Hospital, H Ward, Epsom, Surrey.
    • 11th August postcard to Alf CoLWH.
    • 14th August, listed in Times wounded column as suffering from shellshock.
    • 21st August postcard to Alf CoLWH.
    • 1st September to 4th October series of postcards to & from Hut 21 Camp B, . . Convalescent Hospital, Alnwick.
    • 12th October postcard to Alf at home leave?
    • 14th October postcard from Alf in London.
    • 15th October in Anwick according to message on previous postcard.
    • 11th November A Coy., 3rd Border Regt. North End Camp, Walney Island.
  • 1917 - 2nd January, postcard Prees Heath Camp, off to Barrow tomorrow, home later.
    • 5th April Folkestone about to sail for France.
    • 23rd April, Hut 17, A Coy, 3rd Border Reg, Moor Lane Camp,?????
    • 23rd June, postcard from Field Post Office 64.
    • 10th July, killed in action Nieuport-Lombardzyde, Belgium reported missing
  • 1918 - May confirmed killed in action.

I could do with a bit of help re 3rd Border Camps. I know that 3rd Border was a reserve battalion processing fresh drafts of men. A postcard in the Family indicate that he was with 3rd Border at North End Camp, Walney on 11/11/16, he set out for France on 5/4/17, but was back with 3rd Border on 23/4/17 at Moor Lane Camp. Any suggestions as to:

  1. Where was Moor Lane Camp? Maybe Wigton?
  2. Why would Alf be in France on the 5th and back in Cumberland on 23rd?

I've attached a photo of Alf, his cap has an ordinary Border badge - maybe his was lost in France when wounded. No idea who the other two are. I guess the photo was probably taken during his time at Alnwick Military Hospital.

Cheers, Peter.

File alt font awesome.svg Posted by spike » 14 Apr 2008, 19:56
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A quick google of Moor Lane Camp gives you many results - one of which coincidentally is on some houses for sale in Strensall Camp York - maybe they are connected with the school of musketry. Moor Lane runs fron Strensall Village to Strensall Camp - maybe some musketry retraining before going overseas again....
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by petersloan » 15 Apr 2008, 17:24
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Thanks for googling Spike. I ordnance surveyed and came up with a Moor End at Thursby near Carlisle. I also contacted the Museum and they informed me that Moor End Camp was at Crosby nr. Liverpool. Another small part of the jigsaw! However I have absolutely no idea what Alf was doing there - he thought he was going to France three weeks before!! Peter
File alt font awesome.svg Posted by spike » 15 Apr 2008, 17:34
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Is it Moor End or Moor Lane, Peter?

Youve asked about Moor End and put in your post "- 23rd April, Hut 17, A Coy, 3rd Border Reg, Moor Lane Camp,?????"

File alt font awesome.svg Posted by petersloan » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:00 pm
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Sorry Spike I don't know my end from my Lane! It was indeed Moor Lane. The camp at Crosby is called Moor Lane - it's the excitement!!!!!!

Peter