Border Regiment May to November 1915, re-enlisted July 1916 (forum archive)

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File alt font awesome.svg Posted by Deltic87 » 05 Jan 2016, 22:56
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Anyone out there who might be able to offer advice please?

Private Percy Taylor enlisted 23.05.15 and was discharged as being not medically fit on 17.11.15. Army number 4770 on discharge certificate. Also refers to 3rd Battalion. And "Special Reservist" written on his certificate.

Then on 18.07.16, he re-enlisted as army number 26154. I have a few snippets showing that one of his best chums had been killed on 01.07.16. 20th Battalion, Manchester Pals. Buried in Dantzig Alley Cemetery. Is this what made him re-enlist - or due the diminishing manpower his "Special Reservist" status was invoked and he was called back??

By 02.02.17 he had been wounded and subsequently shipped back to the 3rd Western General Hospital at Newport. At the time of being wounded it seems he was in the 11th Battalion, Lonsdale Pals. (By a strange quirk of fate, my other grandfather Pte. G H Anderson MM had been wounded whilst serving with the Buffs at Arras on 11.04.17 and was also at the 3rd WGH at the same time !!! )

All three medals (1914-15 Star, War Medal and Victory Medal) are all to 26154 Pte. P Taylor. However, 2 other documents I have show him as 4770 and 26154. They also mention him serving with 2nd, 3rd and 11th Battalions. I'm guessing but maybe he was with 3rd just prior to his discharge.

I have his medal index card for his second stint (as 26154) but haven't yet looked for 4770. But there is nothing on his MIC that refers to his previous service with the Border Regiment.

Sorry to all of you that this is a lengthy introduction. I was going to upload some scans that I have made but they are too big to upload. If anyone wants to see them, I am quite happy to share.

Many thanks for taking the time to read this.

Peter Anderson

N.B. Some kind person has suggested that his fitness was re-assessed and that he was found to be fit enough to re-enter the service - this time as 26154

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Welcome to the forum Peter.

Don't worry about your introduction it is a good one, the more information you can give the easier it is for someone to help you out. Sorry I can't help as I am no expert but hopefully someone may be able to.

Regards Mike.

File alt font awesome.svg Posted by kerchi » 29 Aug 2016, 13:01
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Hi Peter,

Does the information you have say what medical condition he was discharged for? So, he was a reservist (3rd Battalion), transferred to the 2nd Battalion and fought in France. Then, was wounded or became ill from something and eventually discharged because of being medically unfit. In 1916 he re-enlists in the Lonsdales. Is his no. 26154 associated with the 11th Battalion?

If you can resize the images at all and post that would be helpful, if not, send them to be and I can resize them for you and email back.

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File alt font awesome.svg Posted by plbramham » 30 Aug 2016, 19:12
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A lot of guys were transferred to the 3rd (Depot) battalion if they were about to be discharged - wounded, sick, "time served".

The 3rd were the "home service battalion". (Ironically you can find records of 3rd battalion men in Ireland, because of course that was still classed as being "home service" before partition of Ireland.)

Conversely, as well as men "on their way out", new recruits were sent to that unit. Thus you often find records of WW1 men (seems especially officers) casualties listed along the lines of "3rd Bn., attached to 7th Bn, 2nd Bn. etc."

Regards, Paul

File alt font awesome.svg Posted by kerchi » 30 Aug 2016, 22:13
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A lot of guys were transferred to the 3rd (Depot) battalion if they were about to be discharged - wounded, sick, "time served".

Do you think that is the case here?

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I would think so, especially as discharged "unfit", maybe wounded, gassed, or simply sick (say even "trench foot"?)

Paul