Can or should war diaries be transcribed? (forum archive): Difference between revisions

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|date =Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:05 am

|post =This one, it is hoped, will get a few responses pertaining to whether or not war diaries from the First World War can be legally transcribed and shown in a public space and made available for everyone to see (providing no monetary gains are made from it). I have never been quite sure what the legal position is on this subject and would like to know whether or not it is actually allowed.

 

 

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|date =Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:06 pm

|post =I don't know how it stands legally, but morally they should be transcribed for future generations.

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|date =Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:06 pm

|post ={{Quote-with-box|user=spike|quote=I don't know how it stands legally, but morally they should be transcribed for future generations.}}

Can't add much but i agree with Spike they should be aloud for everybody to read.

 

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|date =Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:30 pm

|post ={{Quote-with-box|user=kerchi|quote=The war diaries are in the public domain and as long as scanned images of the documents are not shown (unless specific permission has been given) surely there shouldn't be a problem.}}

You’ve got me on one of my pet hobby horses here – copyright!

 

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|date =Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:08 pm

|post =Copyright is, and always will be, a pain in the proverbial backside because no one, unless you have studied it actually understands how it works or affects first, second or third parties. Some of your comments Paul I already knew but I am hazy on the following:

{{Quote-with-box|user=plbramham|quote=All these old photographs you see marked “Photo copyright Joe Bloggs Collection” have no legal basis. You might own the actual physical photo or document, but not the copyright.}}

 

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|date =Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:37 am

|post ={{Quote-with-box|user=plbramham|quote=All these old photographs you see marked “Photo copyright Joe Bloggs Collection” have no legal basis. You might own the actual physical photo or document, but not the copyright.}}

{{Quote-with-box|user=kerchi|quote=So who does own the copyright? This is where I always get confused. Are you referring to someone having acquired old photos such as an individual or group and claiming that now they have them no one else can use them because they are copyrighted to them?}}

 

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|date =Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:04 pm

|post =Paul, regarding your comment about genealogy companies, are they not (just) claiming copyright of the images or transcriptions they have made & not copyright of the original documents?

Ian

 

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|date =Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:37 pm

|post =A lot of this is going over my head far too confusing for my tiny brain [[File:Twemoji 1f615.svg|15px]]

But has some of you no i have just paid and downloaded the 2nd Border Reg diary's so do they not belong to me and can i not do what i want to do with them, like post them onto the Wiki or this forum but say where they came from?

 

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|date =Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:48 pm

|post =Mike, I assume you downloaded the PDF from the National Archives web site. You can check their terms of use from the 'About Us' tab and the link at the bottom of the page. This will take you to another page, on which one of the links is to Copyright.

Ian

 

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|date =Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:50 pm

|post ={{Quote-with-box|user=IanT|quote=Paul, regarding your comment about genealogy companies, are they not (just) claiming copyright of the images or transcriptions they have made & not copyright of the original documents?

Ian}}

 

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|date =Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:47 pm

|post =Paul,

 

 

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|date =Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:29 pm

|post ={{Quote-with-box|user=kerchi|quote=I think the Museum were just trying to scare me off when they (semi-jokingly, but with a hint seriousness) mentioned I could be fined several times over for transcribing their 11th Battalion war diary a few years ago, that's why I stopped transcribing. I felt a little pressured at the time.}}

 

 

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|date =Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:15 pm

|post =At least the war diaries I have on the wiki so far are relatively safe [[File:Twemoji 1f609.svg|15px]]

 

 

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|date =Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:13 pm

|post =I have asked Paul Reed about this issue and this was his reply.