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 Posted by CockneyTone » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:08 pm
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| Borderites! I have just obtained a copy of the said publication that apparently was one of 1k copies published in 1981. I am just starting to read through it but should anybody wish a day looked up please let me know, it covers 1st Jan - 30th June 1916! Regards, Scottie. |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:12 pm
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| Chris, sorry, only just noticed your previous post on this book! For your info I hope to visit his grave at Dantzig Alley next week to pay my respects! Regards, Scottie. |
| Posted by kerchi » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:34 pm
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| Hi Scottie, no worries, it's a great diary and deserves another mention. What do you think of it so far? I would love to be able to use on the Wiki but unfortunately this publication just isn't old enough. I started a Linzell page on the wiki a while back but haven't progressed any further. Not even sure if the publisher exists any more as I tried to phone them about a year ago and all I got was a home number and the lady who answered had never heard of it!! Chris P.s. Wish I was joining you Scottie on your little visit; any chance of a photo for the wiki site please? |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:57 pm
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| Chris, no probs, will try and visit him. Only just started reading it but enjoying it so far. Regards, Scottie. |
| Posted by kerchi » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:52 pm
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| Scottie, let me know what you think of your purchase as I have read this through a couple of times and would be interested of your views. I did find it a little vague in places but saying that it does give some insight to what was happening, even if sometimes it doesn't explicitly talk about the action but more about the 'minor' things that are happening at the time. Still, a riveting read nonetheless. So, are you still doing your trips to the Somme? I can't remember but do you do your own tours? I'm still interested in going. Chris |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:04 am
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| Chris, yep, still doing the odd bit of guiding, but don't advertise, just repeat custom and word of mouth. Just going over for a 'crafty' overnighter as I like to call them, taking three mates for a bit of a 'spring' walk around Flers on the Somme, also using it as a bit of a recce to look around Guedecourt as I have had an enquiry about running a visit/trip to there for someone. I have actually been ignoring the Great War a bit and concentrating on the Boer War as I am still hoping to get out there to follow my Grandfathers footsteps with the Borders! Hope to finish the Diary before my trip so will let you have my feedback. Would love to have a stroll around the Somme with you visiting the Border locations! Regards, Scottie. |
| Posted by kerchi » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:55 pm
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| Scottie, taking in a few walks to cover some of the Border's routes with you would be great, especially as I am interested in all battalions of the regiment (although you know my main preference is the 11th) so there would be plenty of choice, maybe someday soon. When we looked at some of the tours they were so expensive I would rather put it towards a bigger two week holiday from our every increasing list of places to visit, £500 for three nights up to £1000 for 5 nights is a little bit on the steep side for the amount of time away. Enjoy the diary, it has some interesting bits in it. Chris |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:49 pm
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| Fellow Borderites, I managed to visit 2nd Lt Linzell MC to pay my respects and have posted a picture of his headstone! Regards, Scottie. |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:53 pm
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| The family had a rather sad personal inscription engraved on the headstone; NO NO NO OH GOD NOT FOR NAUGHT
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| Posted by kerchi » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:08 am
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| Scottie, would like to have been with you to pay my respects too. How was it the trip? Anyway, thanks a million for posting the pictures here. Can I use the photos on the wiki site for Lizell's page? Chris |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:27 am
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| Chris, would be pleased if you used the pictures elsewhere, no problem. We had a fantastic trip, two days of constant sunshine, however a freezing wind that simply cut you in half! But we were well wrapped up so kept the chill at bay! We got to the Somme late morning, the B & B (can I post details?) let us book in early and welcomed us with a splendid cup of tea, we then went straight out for a walk around Flers then up to Guedercourt, I needed to do a recce on that area for a possible trip later in the year that I may be guiding!
We were concentrating on the Tank attack of the 15th September 1916. As we started our stroll we stood next to the French Memorial my mate saw he was standing on two live 303 bullets that had been turned up by the recent ploughing, a couple of yards away we saw a shell nose cone! The next day after a splendid 'full English' breakie we walked down the footpaths to the NZ memorial then onto Deville Wood and back up to Flers! We found a monster dud shell during that walk, I will post a picture if you are interested. You mentioned earlier the cost of a trip, well if you plan well and have access to a car (Not sure that you have?) it works out quite reasonably, we went via the Tunnel, took loads of grub with us and a couple of small gaz stoves for a brew up as we walked, the whole trip came to £440 for the four of us, so £110 each, that included insurances, breakdown cover, motorway tolls grub, B & B, evening meal with wine etc! We could have knocked £40 off if we took a ferry i/l of the Tunnel but we wanted more time on the Somme! So it can be done more reasonably, obviously adding more days to it increases the sum accordingly! |
| Posted by spike » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:30 am
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| Sounds like an excellent trip, Scottie. Very poignant, the inscription - it cries out with the grief of a family that has lost a loved one. |
| Posted by kerchi » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:32 pm
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Hey Scottie, sounds like you had a bit of luck on your side with regards to the decent weather. I don't mind the cold so much but everything always seems so much better when the sun makes an appearance and brightens the day! 8)Thanks for the piccies, I will add them to Linzell's wiki page today. Posting B&B details is perfectly okay, they would probably appreciate the word being spread, especially if you liked it so much. It certainly sounded welcoming. As for the route and potentially dangerous finds, I can honestly, with everything falling into place, this little trip sounds like a gem and most successful.
 CockneyTone wrote:You mentioned earlier the cost of a trip, well if you plan well and have access to a car (Not sure that you have?) it works out quite reasonably One of the reasons why we looked at tours was because we don't drive and so hiring a car, for instance, isn't really an option for us. This kind of puts a rather large spanner in the works and is probably one of the reasons why I keep delaying the Somme trip. The prices you mention are great, very reasonable indeed, but for us it would cost considerably more and unfortunately our friends don't share the same enthusiasm for visiting battlefields as we do. I think I would like to spend a minimum of 3 days there with the option of upping it to 5 maybe if we'd like to see some other 'stuff'. We'll still think about our options. A meet up there with you would be something to consider in the not too distant future though. |
| Posted by CockneyTone » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:51 am
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| Spike, possibly one of the saddest inscriptions I have seen!
Chris, would love to meet up with you over there with you sometime and follow the footsteps of the Border boys! I do like my 'crafty overnighters' as I call them but agree that with your interest in the subject a longer stay would be preferable for you! The B & B is called OTAGO View and can be found at www.fieldsoffrance.com and is run by Peter & Hilary Smith, Peter is an excellent Guide and a fellow member of the Guild of Battlefield Guides! Please see below a picture of a 'little find' we tripped over near the NZ Memorial! (Yours truly on the left!) |
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